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Discussion in 'Picture gallery' started by mindo, May 3, 2004.

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  1. One Evil

    One Evil Elite Member

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  2. King Kron

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    your a clown....do some homework...
    and polar, i used to think you were ok before all your retarded posts and trying yo post other polar pictures as your own.
    nancy is the only person talking logic on this thing..try to paint any of these classic spots if your shit issnt upto par it issnt going to last more than a couple days.
     
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  4. skunkjuice

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    ........

    I was really tryin to stay out of this bickering but seems like most of ya'll don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
    Because this is graffiti yeah people are right to a certain extent, but there are rules. Unwritten yes, but there are rules. If you're runnin around whining about how there's no rules because this is graffiti, you're a toy who hasn't been properly schooled.

    When I was coming up there were very hard spoken rules that if you didn't follow had consequences.
    The shit that sparked this conversation, clipping Sight's background -- is Wrong.
    1. You don't sidebust G's like that and 2. You definitely don't clip their shit, even if it's just the background. That's grounds for getting gone over or worse, it's a respect thing. Even if it's a tag ---- Don't clip people's shit.

    Some other things i've noticed around town that would have gotten people talking, beaten up, crossed out back in the day...

    - Don't front like you rocked with somebody by squeezing in between them or beside them. That's sidebusting, you're a Toy.

    - If you're going to do a fill in or a hit, FILL THE FUCKIN THING IN. I see too many toy fill ins that are just scratch filled which are showing tags and garbage through them. Respect the people you're going over and cover it - 100%. Toy.

    - Tags above, beside and in peoples backgrounds. People think this is cool nowadays or something but it's not. Don't hit up tags above peoples pieces even if you go above their background. Makes you look like a bitch trying to get into other peoples photos.

    - People bitching about how their wack throw or tags got gone over, or people dissing for having their wack shit get gone over. Get over it. A fill in goes over a tag (only if it's FILLED IN). Respect the hierarchy of tags, fills, hits, pieces, burners.

    - Not calling people out for biting, or thinking biting is ok. It's not ok, it's toy shit. Twist that shit just a little bit at the very least to make it you're own. It doesn't matter if "everyone and their grandma" is doing those arrows now, because that just makes you a lazy biter toy. If you don't know the person(s) personally you're biting from - as in you have sat down with them for a beer, know them by birth name, or been to their house for a BBQ --- don't do it.
    And how the fuck is biting ok? Somebody has got to explain this one to me.

    Maybe i'll bring up more later.

    Here's a couple flicks to illustrate what I mean when i say... FILL IT IN.

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    It just looks better filled in properly.
     
  5. rezwan

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    i dunno man, to follow all your "rules", wouldn't that kind of be like....biting your style? your way of doing things?

    if you ask me stay out of jail is a much better, more important rule than fill it in all the way, i dont like looking at that. i kind of like dusty fill-ins, some of the time, especially when it's over something...it gives what would be a single colour fill-in a "little extra pizzazz."

    besides, i'm pretty sure the case in point, with the arrows, the guy actually does know mozy, so... what's the problem?

    sidebusting last i heard that was ancient slang for making somebody laugh. that's usually good right?:confused:

    and toy... spray paint is a toy. a slightly dangerous one, not fit for children, but a toy nonetheless.... it's what we play with after all. i don't think that's what you should call an unskilled artist, though... unless that's who you go out and paint with. who you play with.

    y'all some unskilled talkers if you ask me

    a flick so my comment doesn't get deleted:p(stolen)

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    and yes those do look better filled in properly
     
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  6. skunkjuice

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    No it wouldn't be biting my "style". These are things that have been passed down from generation to generation from the days of the subways in 70's.
    Seems as though there's a huge disconnect from the generation I helped teach and the writers out now. Somewhere along the line, one generation just stopped the teachings and here we stand.

    There is now more than one issue with the arrows -- you actually knowing where the arrows came from. They didn't come from Mozy because he bit them too. and so did motel at one point. Seems more like "everyone and their grandma", just in Toronto, are biting them arrows because i haven't seen many bite them outside of this city. Do your research before sticking up for somebody.

    As for the fill ins... it's a matter of opinion on what they look like scratch filled or solid. From a respect point of view though if you scratch filled over one of my tags and i could see it clear through your fill, i'd take that "little bit of pizazz" as a sign of disrespect. Scratch fills should be reserved for blank walls.

    And as far as lol "going to jail"... obviously nobody has taught you how to do fill ins properly. If it's getting hot, you know you have the option of stopping - walking around the block - and finishing it on the second pass right? Or stopping - walking across the street - and finishing when it dies down?
    You don't lose any cred if it takes you 15 minutes to do a properly filled in throw, with 3 minutes of actual painting.

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  7. kangarooster

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    people in this city don't want to accept the fact that they suck and don't know shit when they start "being a writer". Maybe it's because this is the generation that grew up with Tony Hawks Pro Skater and the world they enjoy isn't steeped into reality like the older heads. It's taken in chunks of what's most enjoyable and accessible. I would have absolutely loved to have been given outlines to work with (still would) or been educated on the history of the city, but hey all I had was the internet and an honest interest in the craft. I love hearing about how the way things were and trying to uphold them, too many kids just want shit their way these days. Not sure what point I'm trying to make but if an older person is ACTUALLY taking the time to tell you something....listen. And if they say you suck, you probably do. But don't take it the wrong way, everybody needs to work at the craft, you don't get good at this shit overnight. This city has always been about style to me, quick fills are soft.

    yeah, and rime's arrows got raped in this city.
     
  8. bleh

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    You sir are a fucking moron. The fact that you don't know who Dasta is isn't helping YOUR cause. Maybe you should spend more time on here not posting anything but reading shit by people like skunkjuice. Just 'cause a bunch of these bitch ass toys don't know or try to learn about the rules of this shit doesn't mean there aren't any.

    If the writers in this city give two shits about the culture then yeah, they will step up or at least they should. I try to do my part in my neighbourhood, and if everyone else did in theirs then we'd be gravy.

    If that freight doesn't look innovative to you maybe it's because it's fucking 5 years old. Probably still more innovative than anything you're putting out. Another flick of this "Dasta" guy. Whoever he is.
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  9. One Evil

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  10. Imanundercovercop

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    95% older cats would rather avoid any conflict with toys than actually school them properly. You won't get beat up for doing stuff wrong in toronto these days. Maybe they'll cross you and then when you see them they'll tell you what you did wrong and befriend you but that's about it. Some new cats will fight and maybe older cats will be tough if they're rolling in a big pack. Writers aren't dangerous, more likely to get beat up by the thugs or heroes or the police.

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  11. One Evil

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  12. urMOM

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    THIS KID MUST BE JOKING!!! cause i sure am!!! lolzzzzz

    1) I fucking love this site and all the shit talk!!! fucking love it!

    2) ONLY TOYS WRITE SHIT LIKE THIS

    ``try to paint any of these classic spots if your shit issnt upto par it issnt going to last more than a couple days``

    king kron you are the real toy|!!! im fucking sick. i am hip hop. eat a dick
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    if you touch my art... i touch yours.. simple rules of graff... any onE REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE !!! i dont give a fuck... unless were boys... any one who touches my art gets crossed out

    but luckly for you i dont paint nor will i ever paint. so go out and destroy my shit.THEN post it. but please dont be a pussy... leave your tag or crew name.

    be a man... man up, all you fags posting shit on this forum mentioning my name AND never answerING my pm messages... you fags have no idea. im cool. we should be friends. YOU SHOULD laugh when i post pieces of other polars.. that was an original joke... im a joker ask around... fuck man lighten up!!!

    NORTH YORK 4 LIFE !!!!!!

    P.S. I HAVE MAD RESPECT FOR ALL WRITERS IN THE CITY ... DONT GET IT TWISTED.. I LOVE GRAFF AND THINK YAER ALL DOPE .. ALL OF YOU!!! POLAR IS FOR THE PEOPLE!!


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  13. Mathematik

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  15. King Kron

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    the banksy film was cool and so are those hits
     
  16. Hurs

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    correct me if im wrong but isnt this a graffiti forum??
     
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  18. One Evil

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  19. S4d3n

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    Someone's getting a bit hot headed. 5 years old or not, I've seen better shit up. That was a bad example. I know who Dasta is, I don't love all of his shit. Sorry if I don't worship everything a writer does, just because of who he is. Yes, I have met heads and talked with them, and I don't suck up like most people would to try to befriend them. I ask them what was up with a certain recent piece, and they themselves know it was wack, that they were trying some shit that didn't work out. Sorry for not being another worshipping sheep.

    For the record, I really like the piece that you just posted, even though the surface looks bad, it's dope. Doesn't mean I love everything he does, doesn't mean I hate it either.

    Also, big ups Polar. Even if you are nuts.
     
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