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Discussion in 'Toys forum' started by Kayone707, Jun 15, 2005.

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  1. ribcage

    ribcage Banned

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    ^S would have been better without the little extension on the top.

    Bottom left part of M would look better it if where the bottom bar meets left leg was flat instead of a point. E looks real cramped in there Middle part of N changes directions to many times ya digg? theres like 3 points in the transition of the middle bar to the right bar... looks weird
     
  2. ian

    ian Elite Member

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    Flatscank, fuck off

    ribcage, i got you, i agree with all of that, i dont like the pointed part on the M either, didnt realize until i posted it. The E i originally had was different but it didnt fit with the rest of the letters so i made a new one that's probably why its cramped and i see what youre sayin about the N. thanks mayn
     
  3. FlatScank

    FlatScank Banned

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    Ian, you make me laugh, first you diss my own shit, and others that have something positive to say about it, and then upload that garbage exchange "piece" sketch, take time with your stuff, cause those sketches must have been done within 5 mins tops.
     

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  4. Dcicfhbimv

    Dcicfhbimv Senior Member

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    Guys chill the fuck out. This is a constructive thread not a a place to talk shit about each others shit.
    Flat-with all respect this sint the place to post walls.
    Ian-I know you've said it a thousand times but maybe you can lay on your opinion a little less thick when it comes to bars. flat doesn't want your advice its no big deal, but I'm more than sure he doesn't like you talking shit about his work either.
    O.k I'm done being the fucking group therapist here.
    Ian the the front leg of the N on mewn I don't care for it maybe should've kept it straight. And I think ribcage may have a point with the M.
    Other than that I did a little work on the piece from earlier Idk what to do with the left side. please don't repost your same crits I'm looking for something helpful and new. thanks guys.
     

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  5. FlatScank

    FlatScank Banned

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    it's definately obvious you know how to draw, but maybe you should do a sketch of the word going horizontal, with the "writer" finishing off the last letter?
     
  6. Dcicfhbimv

    Dcicfhbimv Senior Member

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    Im having a bit of difficulty following you do you mean have on the left side the word writer and have it meet up with the R on the wall?

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    WriteR like this?
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    it shifted the r over it should be under the F and above the E
     
  7. ChronicKush

    ChronicKush Member

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    FLAT- I like your stuff. You overdue it sometimes with extensions which you should work on but i like your fills.
    Pekins- Suck a dick.

    No markers right now ): guess its just pencil sketches for me. and CONSTRUCTIVE crits for this exchange?
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  8. FACTone

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    just some quick sketches but i know the T is ugly
    @Dcicfhbimv i cant really give crits on your characters cus i'm not good at them. I hope to see more of them
    also the letters are pretty basic but not really feeling them (no hate) but fill is great
    also he means to write horizontal it's better to read and better to flow
     

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  9. ian

    ian Elite Member

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    I'm not tryin to be a dick or anything but seriously no one listens and this thread just fills with garbage that does not progress. Flat every single piece you post is damn near identical, and your letters are bad. Your bars are all over the place with thickness and you have more extensions than bars that actually make up your letters. You people can do whatever kinda fancy fills you want but if your letters suck then it's still gonna look shitty.

    Dcic your characters and coloring and stuff are sick but you also need much work on your letters. I've been drawing for years and taken tons of art classes, but that really doesnt help anything when it comes to graffiti. Drawing letters is not the same as drawing people or anything else. Believe me when I started on here I did not want to do keyboard letters and simples and shit, i wanted to do badass wildstyles and burners and shit but you can't start out with that. You have to do keyboard letters, a lot. you should be able to do any letter on command without a keyboard in front of you with consistent thickness all around and no errors in construction. Once you get that down, you start to understand which bars make up letters and where they need to go and where you can bend them and tweak them to change the letter up without destroying the structure. Once you start doing that you can start adding SOME extensions and youll start to understand where they will go to complement the letter and not make it look like anything else. Once you get to that point, you can start messing around with "style" and develop your own. This is not a short process though and you can't rush it. It's not fun at first, but once you get good itll be worth it IMO.

    Also as far as progression goes, first thing you should have is a solid tag. That's where graffiti started and thats where you should to. *cough* flat *cough*

    anyways, fact that third flick is the best of those, the first two the extension on the F is real weird and the T is bad like you said. The C is also weird, the extensions are basically bigger than the letter.

    ChronicKush that doesnt look bad at all, but dont be dissin tasty because he IS better than you. The C and S are pretty good, the break above the A is gay, and some of your bars are slightly off in thickness

    Flat go simpler thats all i have to say
     
  10. ChronicKush

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    Thanks for the constructive crits ian. I kno the whole rant was for flat lol. and i wasnt tryin to say i was better than tasty just he strait said my piece was shit and it set me off. but yeahh i understand the whole simples and keyboard letters thing. Idk if u kno what puregraffiti is but i was on their forum for about 2 yearss. i have a whole lot of work to do and thats why im on here to get crits and get better.

    anyways i just sketched this up....prolly sucks but crits anyways?
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  11. pointman

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  12. ribcage

    ribcage Banned

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    hmmm does the character flow with the piece? Kinda looks like its just next too the piece... not liquidy enough to be spit
     
  13. pointman

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    I was thinking of getting some transparent paint and doing like green gas like a burp or something surrounding a piece from its mouth
     
  14. SicK-

    SicK- Senior Member

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    Yo flat dont listen to IAN your doing your shit and i think your peices are hot plus you paint which over 90% of the people on here dont do. I do think you should try some new shit every once in a while though.

    Tryin to fux with some new letters on this one. I know the M and R are to small
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  15. Dcicfhbimv

    Dcicfhbimv Senior Member

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    Man I feel you but I honestly have been trying to make bars I'm learning as I go. But you've got give me some slack I'm not gonna master it in 5 or 10 tries thats for sure. And as far as flat goes hes doing his own thing.


     
  16. klic

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    thanks man, good flow on yours.

    alright cool, i getcha.

    not really feeling this, thought id get some feedback.
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    dcic - try to incorporate your letters into the forefront a bit more, don't really stand out.
    fact - the FA's looking pretty clean. id lose the attachment on the bottom of your C, and just make the rest a bit bigger. the top of your t's too big, not feeling the extensions on your T either.
    werm - diggin it, dopest ish on this page
    ekaf - simple it up man, extensions aren't looking that great. im digging the clas simp though
    soar - fear piece is looking ill, easily the best thing you posted. your hands need a lot of work, start simple with them again. throws aren't bad, look fairly generic though.
    flat and ian - neither of you are very good. its new members like you guys that ruined the toy forum. back 2 or 3 years ago it was all constructive criticism, everyone trying to help everyone else improve. just chill, its supposed to be fun.
     
  17. ribcage

    ribcage Banned

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    S is slackin on this 1 breh, idk if it exactly fits or not but it looks like you messed up on it. I dig the rest tho, tryina exchange? if so hit me with a pm. Oh and your D looks like an O in this 1
     
  18. Tempo718

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    hav'nt drawn in a few weeks been busy
     
  19. ChronicKush

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  20. SicK-

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