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Discussion in 'Toys forum' started by Kayone707, Jun 15, 2005.

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  1. kringe

    kringe Senior Member

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    Both are about a year old, pen freestyles. I hate pencils anyway, 1 out of every 30 pieces i do i might use a pencil. its rare.
    You're attempting to do a cool style, Moler does it similar, but he does it very well. The difference is he has good base letters. If you take away all the fancy shit you do to your letters, they are ugly. I'm saying, take the time to learn letters better, then if you want, start going back to that style. Right now you are just polishing a turd. I'm giving you real critiques right now, you can chose to listen to these other people tell you that your shit is great, but anyone telling you that has no clout. Take it or leave it.
     
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  2. DZEDOZER

    DZEDOZER Senior Member

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    Feeling pretty loose tonight. Kringe is right elbow, that grubby style works for moler because he's good at it, and if you strip his letters, they're good to begin with, but yours are ugly, no hate but like work on letter structures, don't force that stuff cause it doesn't work
     
  3. maDUECE

    maDUECE Senior Member

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    and then my stupid fill...
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    and this...

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  4. _flocka_

    _flocka_ Senior Member

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    There is already a zephyr that's kills freights man. He has a website too . Just saying
     
  5. Vapid666

    Vapid666 Elite Member

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    Im too lazy/tired to finish it, so heres a pencil sketch for the day.
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  6. niur

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  7. Dreams_31:6

    Dreams_31:6 Senior Member

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    Nice! You're style is really developing Vapik; I should take note from you
     
  8. maDUECE

    maDUECE Senior Member

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    I know. His work is amazing. One of the other guys wanted me to choose a work and I chose Zephyr. Look on the last page.
     
  9. _flocka_

    _flocka_ Senior Member

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    Ohhhhh okay, I see now, my bad, just lookin out cuz there's some ppl that'll call you out quick like assholes lol.
    And VAPIK, that shit is clean man, that K And P look so crispy
     
  10. Grabs

    Grabs Senior Member

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    @Elbow, DOPE. That hollow piece in the middle is a banger. The overall fills on the other two are dope as well. Digging your work bro.

    @Vapik Your shit is dope dude, glad you worked toward a new style on the V and K. The P would look dope if the spine was slanted toward the I and the P had an extension at the bottom.

    @Niur Your simples are tight. I'd lose the extension on the R though, makes it look off. Besides that, you have a good grasp on bars. Nice work
     
  11. maDUECE

    maDUECE Senior Member

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    Some sketching from today.
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  12. Grabs

    Grabs Senior Member

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    @Chive The top one has decent use of bars, V seems a little short. C is way too long and the overall structure of the letters don't work. Keep working with bars and you'll have cleaner simples.
     
  13. mefisto

    mefisto Senior Member

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    Are there ppl who hate euro?That style fken drives me mad, its not bad if there is a little bit of euro, but the fucking graffiti community in Budapest went to a legal wall and did black and rep pieces! but they werent even detailed !
    Do you also feel the same? Like in your country there were killing burners and throwies, but today ppl are doing euro copyed piece of shits and toy tags with no style?
     
  14. Dafty

    Dafty New Member

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    Hi guys new here, gimme some crits.

    That vapik is sick.

    Any ne hlep me on how to make image the right way around?
     
  15. SophLife

    SophLife Senior Member

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    Dafty - I just open the editor and rotate them on my computer, but if I'm on my phone I use the Aviary photo editor app, of course you could just click rotate on there also. As for crits you need to make sure your letters are the same size and width throughout the word, also the style doesn't really make sense to me to begin with. I don't know, and don't think, if you've done keyboard letters yet. If you haven't then thats what everyone else will tell you to do for awhile.

    Just a basic page to practice pen control. I've naturally got shaky hands so does anyone know a way to help with keeping my lines straight?

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    also I feel like it would be better if I left my name out
     
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  16. Arose.One

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    @soph practice making quick lines, some curved, some straight. Try to do it quickly, and loosen your wrist. Eventually you will be able to make a perfect line very quickly. I find the faster you make your lines, the less shaky they are. So try to build up speed, and it'll come to you. Hope that helps.
     
  17. hungover

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    @Soph practice. I had the same issues as well, and the more you get used to it the speedier you go and the less shaky your lines are (as arose said)
     
  18. Vapid666

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  19. SophLife

    SophLife Senior Member

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    Thanks guys, I'll keep working on it.

    Vapik - The color scheme is dope, especially the yellow outline, I think on a wall it would really help it stand out
     
  20. Moler_Lmk

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    Alright I've been away for a while and I've checked out the last few pages and on the topic of elbow I'm gonna have to agree with everyone.. I'm an absolute fan of grimey shit And all that jazz and I've been doing it for a long ass time but I gotta say your trying too hard on a style that absolutely isn't working for you... and it really hard for me to sit there and see you giving people crits about bars and structure and proportion when you literally have absolutely none of those things invested into your pieces... Im not sure who it was but some one said if you stripped all the add ons and bullshit from my letters they would still have proper structure and look visually appealing. If we stripped all the bullshit off your letters it would look absolutely ridiculous... your focusing too much on a style that isn't working for your benefit its actually holding you back and your not paying enough attention to your actual letters and that's what this game is all about brother you gotta have dope letters to earn respect! I would sincerely recommend you completely drop the grimey style and forget about it for a long time and maybe some day when your ready you can try it again... I'm sorry for the childrens novel but I really needed to get in on this because it hurts me to see you just butchering a dope style