http://www.myspace.com/groundzerocthc ^the real Ground Zero [/b][/quote] so you heard about it ??? it's great band , isn't it ??
more people that dont suck and like good old hardcore...pm me so we can share shit over AIM. Ive done it with like 4 dudes on here and its been workin out pretty nice for both of us. "Ive done it with like 4 dudes on here..." LOLZ
hah i played with guns up too. and bane, and outbreak, and blacklisted, being that someone mentioned those bands come to long island and check us out kidssssssssssssssssss www.myspace.com/headtrauma peaceeeee
its not worth driving for an hour and a half to get on a half hour long ferry ride, then have to drive some more just to see a fucking band. no offence farthest ill go to see a show is New Haven, and mabey Brockton
i just bought a bass guitar from a friend yesterday for 50 bucks, amp and bass i borrowed a cable from another friend, im starting a fucking band im singing and playing bass
we should start an e-hardcore band through BS each respective member will record their part as a track, and someone will lay the tracks togeteher and do all the production work. hahahahahahaha, what the fuck was i thinking
i refuse to believe im in the same level of shittiness or shittier than the likes of people like that fuck punk
^that is NOT punk in the least bit. they look like some wannabe anarcho gutter punks. (although weed and beer have to be two of my favorite things ever) u cant like hardcore and then turn around and say fuck punk. thats one of the biggest contradictions that one can make. before hardcore was called "hardcore" there were bands like minor threat, black flag, bad brains, earth crisis, youth of today, gang green, and many more. these bands were classified as "punk" and/or "thrash." the kids who liked these bands considered themselves to be into "punk" music. later as the music progressed and more bands were formed people started calling it "hardcore punk" to distinguish it from bands like sex pistols and ramones. then eventually they just dropped the word "punk" and called it "hardcore." so yea. hardcore is an offshoot of punk. and thats that. hardcore kid = punk kid once again fuck u. yer shitty. (nothing personal)
how the fuck can you call Earth Crisis punk? while its true shit like youth crew definately evolved from punk, alot of hardcore more evolved from metal in my opinion.
ok yea. earth crisis probably didnt belong in that list. they are, in a sense, the product of metal ethics being integrated into punk/hardcore music. especially nowadays. but they are however a straight edge band and straight edge is another offshoot of the punk scene that ties into hardcore quite a bit. everything is connected. everyone has there own mentality. there will always be someone who disagrees with you. once you recognize this you reallize that when you argue all you are really doing is stating your oppinion which everyone is entitled to. but what most people fail to reallize is that their oppinion doesnt matter. my oppinion doesnt matter and neither does yours. but thats just my oppinion. lol.
so what are some bands that you consider to be hardcore? p.s. if you say norma jean or as i lay dying im gonna piss myself.
like, as i lay dying, and atreyu and cool shit like that brah! hahahahahaha well, going from my example of evolving from more of a metal aspect look at shit like Biohazard, Irate, All Out War, Fury Of Five, 25 Ta Life i guess might fit into that category, Hatebreed(i dont give a fuck what you gotta say, hatebreed is still the shit) etc... i'd love to continue this but it seems dairy is wreaking havoc on my gastro intestinal tract, and i must go
^that is NOT punk in the least bit. they look like some wannabe anarcho gutter punks. (although weed and beer have to be two of my favorite things ever) u cant like hardcore and then turn around and say fuck punk. thats one of the biggest contradictions that one can make. before hardcore was called "hardcore" there were bands like minor threat, black flag, bad brains, earth crisis, youth of today, gang green, and many more. these bands were classified as "punk" and/or "thrash." the kids who liked these bands considered themselves to be into "punk" music. later as the music progressed and more bands were formed people started calling it "hardcore punk" to distinguish it from bands like sex pistols and ramones. then eventually they just dropped the word "punk" and called it "hardcore." so yea. hardcore is an offshoot of punk. and thats that. hardcore kid = punk kid once again fuck u. yer shitty. (nothing personal) [/b][/quote] how can you say that isnt "in the least bit punk"? I've been into punk rock for seven years. Alot of street punk and crust kids just dress like that...I dont, i just wear t-shirts and shit. But I dont get how you can say a kid in plaids and studs has nothing to do with punk rock...Im gonna have to agree with Havok on that one.... I pretty much agree with the rest of what you said, but i have NEVER heard minor threat, black flag, bad brains, earth crisis, youth of today, or gang green refered to as thrash. EVER. Punk yes, thrash no. And by like 83 or 84 people were calling music hardcore and not punk anymore...Youth of Today was DEFINATLY not a punk band. They were a youth crew hardcore band and actually wanted to distance themselves from the punk scene. Earth Crisis is more metal than hardcore too...I dont really know why you included a 90's vegan hardcore/metal mosh band on your list...not really a good way to get your point across. You had some good points and I understood where you were comming from, just terrible examples.
Hardcore was just an angrier form of punk. If anything, a lot of metal bands were influenced by hardcore bands, i.e. Slayer being influenced by DRI and Verbal Abuse. I mean, if you wanna talk about the different progressions of hardcore, yeah, 90's metalcore (and beyond) was highly influenced by metal (obviously), but hardcore is what it is. Even today there are tons of bands who are more on the punk side of hardcore than the metal side (Fucked Up, Government Warning, Direct Control, Restless Youth, etc). Oh, and the term "Youth Crew" should only be used in reference to Youth of Today and bands related to them. "Youth Crew sounding" is something else, though.
not all punks look like that i listen to a lot of punk so technically you could call me a punk but i sure as hell dont look like that this whole arguement could be turned around on the hardcore stereotypes but lets not have a whole punk vs hardcore battle to the death