dude newk, you gotta just humble up and take advice for what it is. no ones attacking you, no ones saying theyre hot shit, and no ones being a dick. i came on here, tried to do a piece battle, thought it was nice, and got totally shit on. i was doin the same thing as you. you're trying to do advanced stuff before you can do the basics. lose arrows lose extensions and just about everything. check the new to graffiti thread (even though you're technically not "new"). Bite the keyboard, stick to simps and then you'll start to get a feel for it. just don't get so defensive and take advice for advice. your shit was pretty weak, and people arent gonna hesitate to tell you that on here.