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Discussion in 'Toys forum' started by Kayone707, Jun 15, 2005.

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  1. TanZ

    TanZ Senior Member

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    Go home U. You're drunk.
    3D effects aren't facing the same direction, S hitting the E does not match the rest of the scheme, and where did the rest of the L go? It should be showing some in the opening of the C.

    Try again.
     
  2. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    There is a lot that can be improved. And puts i am not trying to start a fight but you say you have letter structure. Do keyboard letters or a block buster style. Then i will believe you.
     
  3. SaGE_lym

    SaGE_lym New Member

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    Been trying this for a week now. Any advice would be appreciated! IMG_20170712_213506980-01.jpg
     
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  4. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    Looks decent. But i think the "G" is hidden to much as well as most of the letters. Try spacing your letters out more.
     
  5. PUTS

    PUTS Elite Member

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    That's fine I'll get some old stuff out to show.
     
  6. PUTS

    PUTS Elite Member

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    @Sage Scrap the whole thing and do keyboard letters. Use my picture below for reference. As for your tag do simple letters with no style at all. The one good thing though about your piece is it's hella clean.
    @kaps2 Here's a complete alphabet I did a while back. It's not my favorite thing but it's the only thing I could find. This is what you should be able to do with ease before moving on to more complicated stuff.
    DSCN4444.jpg
     
  7. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    Good work Puts. Ill try.
     
  8. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    20170712_181704.jpg This is some letters i found were the most easy to do but i will be doing a full alphabet to post. 20170712_181650.jpg 20170712_191208.jpg mind the riped paper.
     
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  9. TanZ

    TanZ Senior Member

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    Try making all the bars the exact same width all the way through. The connection on the A on the last page is way too thin, and so are the second/middle dashes on the E and F. Curves are also kicking your ass. The bar lines are wider at the connection points on D and thinner on the outside of the curve, and the G doesn't have enough internal space for it to hook back in because the top and bottom of the curves are too thick.

    Same width. All of it. Get to doing that, and you'll see improvements in your structure. Don't try to make it calligraphy. Don't worry about making parts thick and thin. Same width is consistency, therefore it is good.
     
  10. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    20170712_211443.jpg I am slowly feeling more comfortable.
     
  11. Kaps2

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  12. PUTS

    PUTS Elite Member

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    Just because you do it once doesn't mean you're ready to move on. Your letters look too forced, you need to do this many more times trust me. You don't have to do full alphabets though, maybe once in awhile to see what letters you need to work on. Use this opportunity to work on making your letters clean, mess around with fills and clean outlines.
     
  13. TanZ

    TanZ Senior Member

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    You may be starting to get more comfortable with it, but your letters themselves aren't doing so hot. I see the same issues I saw last time on the D, G, and now also the J, O, P, and S. Basically, what I'm saying is that at any point on a letter for learning block style, you should be able to draw a line perpendicular to the outline and have that line be the exact same distance all the way through that bar. Around curves you tend to make that distance smaller (D, P) or larger (G, J). For practicing the fundamental of making your lines parallel, that's not exactly a good thing.

    Remember, mate: practice does not make perfect. It makes habit.
     
  14. lse292

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  15. Kaps2

    Kaps2 Elite Member

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    You thank you puts and tanz for the advice and feed back.
     
  16. Dean44

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    Whatsup y'all. Haven't been here in a minute.

    Kaps2- On the Clues one, work on your letter structure a little bit, try some simples like the ABC ones you got, those ones look nice. Don't be afraid to do a full piece with all simple letters, they look clean as hell. Maybe not "dope" but clean. I admire writers who do that.

    SAGE- Beautiful work, good letters only uncover your G a bit. Not to shabby

    Ringo- The second one and the fourth one are cool. On the other two drop the connection of your R and I, whack. fucks you I up, widen it up bro. Good work though, keep practicing.
    edit*The third one's a good throwie concept. I had an AceS one that was pretty similar. Like the sharps.
     
  17. loonaii

    loonaii Elite Member

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    Lol kaps if those are the easy letters why do they look like shit? Puts that alphabet is halfway decent. Still pretty weak tho. Ringo trying to hard nothing's working for you there. Yal just need to slow down and be happy with doing straights until they actually look good. Then learn to lean your letters properly, then learn how to exagerate a bar properly, then learn connections and extensions after all that is down. Most people here been doing the same shit for months or years with 0 improvement. Baby steps kids.
     
  18. ESONE.

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    #pissoneverything
     
  19. TanZ

    TanZ Senior Member

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    I mean tbf I have been trying to tell y'all that practice makes habit, not perfect. Like, as an artist, you have to force yourself to ask questions as to what's working, what isn't, and how to change things, because if you keep doing the same thing over and over again, you're practicing incorrectly. Most of the reason I haven't posted many images lately is because I've been evaluating my work, looking back, and trying to determine where my fundamental problems are so that I can work on them. It's very likely that the issues are fundamental and not even with the letters themselves, but how we've viewed them. Making them look cool comes way later. He seems right to say that we probably instead need to look away from what makes a letter look cool, but instead as to what makes a letter, and to break that down into parts, and work on those parts. That way, when we return to letters proper, our fundamental understanding will have changed, and progress will be achieved.
     
  20. lse292

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