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REVOK MSK BUCKET TKO ARRESTED fr Internet...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by GeSuS_KRiST, Aug 1, 2008.

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  1. Proper

    Proper Elite Member

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    Call me a sell out, question my love, do as you please but honestly I do not understand what the problem of being sponsored is. If I want to sell MY art to some company willing to pay me money for my blood, sweat, and tears then by all means I have the right to do so whether you and this "culture" like it or not. Whether some 13 year-old likes it enough to pick it up is not my problem. How are you any different from kids when you started graffiti? Where'd you pick it up? I'm sure the older heads thought you were just some punk-kid in it for the lulz. Eventually a majority of those kids will see graffiti on the streets and on forums such as Bombing Science and 12ozProphet. Do the creators of Bombing Science and/or 12ozProphet get shit for being sell-outs? They're essentially marketing graffiti but don't you all love BS or 12oz? Don't you use it frequently? Everyone has a right to do graffiti and where they picked it up shouldn't be the concern. In essence, all of you claiming that selling your artwork is selling-out are calling every artist in history a sell-out. From Michelangelo to Vincent Van Gogh to Salvador Dali and so on. If you love something, you want it to flourish and thrive not die-out. In the end, all of the kid who love graff will stay and all of the kids who wanted to be hood will eventually leave. It's basically all part of growing up.
     
  2. Robbie P

    Robbie P Senior Member

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    can someone lock this thread?

    you shouldn't post other writer's legal shit on the internet, just isn't right.
     
  3. hammer_time

    hammer_time Banned

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    selling art, canvases, vincent van gogh, picasso, isnt graffiti, its art for fuckin sure, its not being out at night painting train, or wall, or what have you....

    i understand those that are true to it will stay, and those in it for the wrong reasons will leave, you would have thought music was the same way, look what rap has become, or rock and roll, the more you can whore the farther you get, and graffiti is on its way to the same section of the store...

    i do want graff to flourish, but graff isnt studios, free cans, shoe deals, canvases, and oil paints...
     
  4. sketch3

    sketch3 Banned

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  5. hammer_time

    hammer_time Banned

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    dont be so sure....
    yea but is it still a free expression of you, if you painting an ad to help someone sell something, cuz i guarantee you he's told to add this and that, and to leave that out.....
     
  6. sketch3

    sketch3 Banned

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    yea but revok dosnt paint for ads all te time,


    100% of a singed rappers lrics have to be aprove by the lable,

    some corperte suit canttell revok shit when ts dark in some ally cuss only the wrighter has controle of what eds upmon the wall, obviously if hes doing a comunity mural or company logo hell have to change some things
     
  7. hammer_time

    hammer_time Banned

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    that is true.....

    it's just opinions, noone is really right or wrong, its like the piecer vs. bomber thing, or spirituality....
    its just whats inside yourself, mine are different.....this time
    its just human nature, that when you feel passionatly about something you want that to be the correct way
    kinda like mormans
     
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  8. BIGel

    BIGel Elite Member

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    i guess this is just one of those things we'll all have to agree to disagree on, because i couldnt disagree with you more. but ok, to each his own.

    just because i believe you CAN make money from your skills as a graffiti artist doesnt mean i condone others who are seeking to destroy it from the inside out. i know they're there, and they're just like parasites in any other subculture, they'll suck it dry until it cant make money anymore. but i simply dont think revok falls in that category.
     
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  9. PureSole

    PureSole Elite Member

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    Okay look, the thing is, Graffiti has been around longer, really, than 'Hip-hop' has. Yeah, it started around the same time and merged into hip hop culture, because it was picked up by frustrated individuals (youth mostly) who needed a way to express themselves in inner cities, especially NYC and surrounding cities like Philly. Rap, the vocal part of hip hop, can be said to have "sold out". like the Hilltop Hood's song says, " In 1979, Hip-Hop was a culture.." Today, the vocal part isn't really a culture, its a business. Even underground artists are just in it trying to catch a break.

    Graff hasn't been turned into a "business" ("selling out") and won't. They were doing art exhibits with graffiti inspired pieces in the 80s and 90s. Its still very much true to its roots. Berlin, a city previously which previously held a liberal attitude toward graff, is getting tighter with its laws and enforcement. You think if people go into studios, selling their art (even its painted on a train, art, etc. it is art, although it is vandalism at the same time), getting shoe deals, society will open up to it?
    No...never. Thats the reason those of us who are sticking around in this crap, are in it. Its not that people know US, they know a name. Some of us do it with the consious thought that were going against establishment, or we just wanna express ourselves, or both. Some of just want the rush that lets you know your alive, or all 3 things. Theres many reasons but at the end of the day

    Its all good. No body should stress out about this shit. And if you can make money off a talent, power to you.
    Remember hammer, "To perceive is to suffer". I know you don't wanna see it getting "watered down" or w/e. Just stop worrying, it all works out.
     
  10. T_R_O_N

    T_R_O_N Senior Member

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    The funny thing about all this is that while all you guys are discussing graffiti politics,as if that even exists lol ,The homie revok is just going to get back out there and continue doing what he loves, and getting paid for it. So enough yapping. You guys sound like the fucking paparazi and tabloids discussing this man's personal buisness.
     
  11. sketch3

    sketch3 Banned

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    n., pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr'ə, fōr'ə).
      1. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
      2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
      3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
    1. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
    2. A court of law; a tribunal.
    this a forum
     
  12. T_R_O_N

    T_R_O_N Senior Member

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    Thanks for that definition mate. However, i believe you completely missed what I was getting at because you were trying too hard to be witty. Great try there ole chap.
     
  13. sketch3

    sketch3 Banned

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    no i got ur point old bean,
    it was just stupid
     
  14. GeSuS_KRiST

    GeSuS_KRiST Moderator

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    this thread isnt about there legal trouble its to show how dangerous the internet is....
     
  15. T_R_O_N

    T_R_O_N Senior Member

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    naaah, you didn't get it. its all good though. :D
     
  16. Proper

    Proper Elite Member

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    You're point is what we've been discussing this whole time...
     
  17. sketch3

    sketch3 Banned

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    just beause i dont agree with u dosnt mean i dont understand what ur saying,


    but i dont gare enuff to continue this
     
  18. Slushi

    Slushi Banned

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    Whats the big deal about getting paid? How many of you in high school said shit like "I wish I could bomb for a living"?
    If revok wanted to sell out he'd write "drink pepsi".

    Revok is good at painting. So he paints for money. Just like someone who plays music or works with wood.
    Revok also loves to get up. So he risks his life climbing 100 foot billboards.

    Cope on the other hand uses his name to endorse clothes, video games, and other stupid bullshit. Cope is a sellout.
     
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  19. Kayone707

    Kayone707 Moderator

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    stop clogging up the topic.
    that's why the good afternoon topic was made

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  20. RAWKET

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    yeah i wonder what boost's and war42's involvement with the artist after they got arrested....... considering that is it was there quest for fame and publicity/promotion that got these artist arrested......... as for tracing back ip's from youtube i doubt either one posted there own work .......all the videos are through boost war42 and known gallery (revoks are usually at legal functions except for the last one that he and augs did) i had a bad feeling something like this would happen to REVOK back when he started fucking with LA times and la weekly a while back.......as for buket i feel for this guy because they are going to throw the book at him