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The Herbal Remedy Thread!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Car2nist, Dec 29, 2004.

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  1. MontanaPainter

    MontanaPainter Elite Member

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    shrooms,dmt, or LSA man.


    google lsa extraction from morning glory seeds
     
  2. RetroLikeWhoa13

    RetroLikeWhoa13 Elite Member

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    i heard LSA can fuck you up long term...
     
  3. lordloss

    lordloss Senior Member

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    umm shrooms fuck you up long term hella bad...

    salvia is hella safe no side effects and last only 8 mins and its legal
     
  4. MontanaPainter

    MontanaPainter Elite Member

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    how the fuck do shrooms and LSA perma-fuck you up?


    dont talk about shit you dont know 100%



    (unless you are talking about it lets say if you have schizephrenia,etc)
     
  5. Phiner

    Phiner Senior Member

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    dude that artical is from 2003
     
  6. drunkenshits_one

    drunkenshits_one Senior Member

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    There are no long term physical effects from ingestion of mushrooms containing psilocybin and psilocin. As far as long term mental effects go this is a subject for debate and has no clear cut answer based on the little bit of research and clinical studies that have been done. This thread has a good conversation on this subject.

    Negative long term mental effects from extended high dosages may include some cognitive impairment and HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perceptual Disorder) and possibly some emotional liability due to effects on serotonin levels produced by the human brain. Usually temporary, these fade with cessation of use over a period of a few months.

    Postive long term mental effects from any dosage amount may include a personal conviction of philosophical or religious enlightenment, a stronger sense of one's identity, and a feeling of intimacy with all of life including nature (plants, trees, animals, etc).

    Studies have shown that over years of occasional use, the user notices no apparent change in his/her physical or mental condition that would be considered detrimental. In fact, many users state the opposite. However, it is possible, as with any noteworthy experience in life, that if a user were to have a tough time while under the influence of the mushroom that they could have an ongoing spiritual or psychological issue to sort out. The odds of somoeone having a long-term "issue," though, as a result of the mushroom experience, is probably exceedingly rare based on all the personal accounts we are able to read about.

    Research:
    "Psilocybin affects core dimensions of altered states of consciousness and physiological parameters in a dose-dependent manner. Our study provided no cause for concern that Psilocybin is hazardous with respect to somatic health" - Acute psychological and physiological effects of psilocybin in healthy humans: a double-blind, placebo-controlled dose-effect study; Hasler F , Grimberg U, Benz MA, Huber T, Vollenweider FX <#>

    "This drug is not associated with physical or psychological dependency, acute toxicity is largely limited to possible panic and anxiety attacks and, in terms of chronic toxicity, the worst that can happen are flashbacks. Consequently, the use of paddos (hallucinogenic mushrooms) does not, on balance, present any risk to the health of the individual" - Risk Assessment by CAM (Coordination Centre for the Assessment and Monitoring of New Drugs), 2000. <#>

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    in other words, you lose
     
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  7. MAST

    MAST Elite Member

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    if the kid's not willing to try acid, i highly doubt he'd be willing to do dmt. nor is it that easy to find at all.

    but vic's won't make you trip whatsoever. pills are just boring to me now. and if you'd robotrip instead of eating mushrooms or something, you're retarded. robo/triple c's can fuck your body up so much easier/worse. plus, for the most part, the robo/triple c trip is a lot less stable than mushrooms. i've heard a lot more scary stories from that shit than i have about mushrooms.

    i've done both, and i can easily say i enjoyed mushrooms 10 times more than robo/triple c. but overall, acid has been the most fun for me. but i still have yet to try dmt and salvia.
     
  8. lordloss

    lordloss Senior Member

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    im going with salvia idk i heard sit bout shrooms and to me not safe
     
  9. drunkenshits_one

    drunkenshits_one Senior Member

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    yea, and it's ten times more expensive than all of the above.
     
  10. drunkenshits_one

    drunkenshits_one Senior Member

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    i haven't heard the blindness thing, pretty sure that's just hype.

    peyote isn't that hard, i mean, i don't have any experience but i've had a few friends get seeds and just plant them randomly in the mountains (i live in reno, nevada) and they grow pretty naturally. they didn't even water them or anything, just planted them along a stream and checked back a month or two later and it seemed to be growing just fine.
     
  11. psyduck

    psyduck Senior Member

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    They are easy to keep alive .. like any cactus. They take 2 or 3 years to reach flowering size. If you want to speed it up you can actually graft a peyote plant to a faster growing cactus to speed up the process.Iv'e never done it but I'd google it.
     
  12. psyduck

    psyduck Senior Member

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    It is still technically legal. Growing and selling is still illegal.
     
  13. Jase

    Jase Senior Member

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    I'm thinking of doing shrooms but its insanely hard to get where i am from. Seems to be 0 market for it. Is there anywere i can get the spores from? like a creek or some shit.

    I am starting to grow bud but i need to find some quality seeds first. Found a house that is just sitting there abandoned. Seems like an awesome spot to me.

    When is it prime time to start growing?
     
  14. MAST

    MAST Elite Member

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    with any hallucinogen comes eye "damage" for most people. i don't know if it's what you were talking about or not, but ever since i tripped the very first time, my eyes will see waves in shit like crazy at random times. it's not necessarily a flashback because i've had those too, and that's a completely different story, but it's just a subtle thing. i don't mind it whatsoever though, i guess it's kinda cool, but some people may just not want that. i read in the perks of being a wallflower (ha-ha i guess im a pussy....) after the kid trips L, he still sees shit move a couple days later, and his friend says it's normal and that it'll go away. same shit here, but it just hasn't gone away.

    i know it's not some unkown fact or anything, and that it happens to most people, but i'm just speaking from personal experience. you probably already knew all this shit though.

    but i have oh so sweet plans for this 4/20. bonfire and camping and painting and such.
     
  15. DeDo1

    DeDo1 Senior Member

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    i have Q and i need an A
    when u walk near a grow house whats it smell like over where i live there are hundreds of grow houses and my mom her bf and i think when ever we walk past a house and it smells like skunk (like the animal) we think thats what it is but we're not sure
     
  16. MAST

    MAST Elite Member

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    if you wanna get shot



    i remember i went out to stay with some family in oregon a couple years ago and my uncle was driving me way out into the country and he would point out the herb farms. they all had huge walls with electric fences and guard dogs and armed guards and "no trespassing: violators may be shot" signs and shit. it was the definition of intense.
     
  17. DeDo1

    DeDo1 Senior Member

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    i would if i knew it was its like every 7th house and not one day goes by that someone doesnt get cought growing shit
     
  18. Tony

    Tony Elite Member

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    this guy i went to school with broke into a grow...and the people came home

    he got tied to a chair and stabbed with a steak knife, in many places... like the arm, leg, neck...and even one that punctured his lung
     
  19. DeDo1

    DeDo1 Senior Member

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    lmao.......when i was really young like 7 or 8 i remember that these ppl that lived in this house at the end of my block were never home maybe some times and one day i saw one getting ready to leave the house and i asked him where do you work and he said i have my own company i work with my room mate i thought he was gay or or something me and all the kids would go on top of the houses roof and play hide-n-seek u know kid shit we even made a treehouse in his back yard they didnt even know well like what 2 years ago they were still living there and what not and police raided there house they found over 500 plants and and i said to myself if i would have known all that shit woud have been mine.......and now a cop lives in the house.........lmao
     
  20. Kao.Ali

    Kao.Ali Senior Member

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    did somone say shrooms?

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    1/4. the caps are all helllllla tiny. I feel a little ripped off